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		<title>By: Fabian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fabian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 07:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I took the Battery out of my Satellite M30X-102 while it was plugged in and running. 

But the Notebook ran fine afterwards, without the battery.

 Only when I put the battery in once more (this time Notebook was off and disconnected) it started. I got the impression, that somehow it became slower, even when the power chord was connected once again.

After 20 minutes the BIOS and Windows said, that battery was at 0%, but I disabled the auto-hibernate and see there, the notebook ran 25 more minutes on DC.

I then reloaded the battery completeley and used the tool &quot;Battery eater&quot; to unload the battery on heavy usage.

The funny thing was, that the tool showed, that the battery was still OK:

Device Name PA3395U
Manufacture TOSHIBA
Serial # SEW 04 34 A SY
Unique ID 3658QTOSHIBAPA3395U
Chemistry Lithium Ion
Temperature Termal Control Not Present
Designed Capacity 59200mWh
Full Charged Capacity 59200mWh
Designed Voltage 14,4V
Current Voltage 16,573V
Manufacture Date 0/0/0
Cycles Count 0
Cells count 4
Force charge support Not Supported
Force discharge support Not Supported

The battery is 5 years old. I&#039;m using the original power cable.


The notebook was again running longer than shown, on the heavy usage benchmark.

I recharged again.

That was the last test I could run, after that the notebook just went off without error message, whenever I started the test run with Battery Eater.

After that it even crashed when booting windows.After letting it cool down I could log in again, but as soon as the processor got tuned up to 100% it shut off again. No Error Message, no event log.
The problems occur on AC without battery, as well as on battery+AC and battery alone.

Now I have a serious  problem (overheating?), NB shuts off even when booting into ubuntu from CD.
I&#039;ve just cleaned the cooling block from the outside with a vacuum cleaner.
Maybe I damaged the fan by turning in passively. (I&#039;ve done that before though and never had a problem)
Maybe all the testing destroyed something and now there is false voltage or something like that. Maybe it&#039;s only the fan, that got hurt.

Now I&#039;ve disassembled the Notebook to look for some heat problems (but the heatspred doesn&#039;t seem to be that clogged). What else should I check / look for?

I&#039;ve installed the latest ATI catalyst mobile ver. 9.02 and updatet the BISO to 2.0 lately.  I thought that maybe the graphics driver was the problem for overheating, but when I installed the one provided by toshiba, the screen got black after the boot logo.

I&#039;m also using a clean install of windows, not the recovery and lately heard about these &quot;toshiba common modules&quot;. Where can I find those for my model? They are not in the driver section for my Notebook.

Before I&#039;ve taken out the battery while running, I&#039;ve had it already two times, that my notebookjust went completely off, but under different circumstances.
One time when I just touched the back USB ports with a USB Plug, the other time when I unplugged my bluetooth stick (din&#039;t savely remove it).
There was no Bluescreen or message of any kind, not even in the event log after booting up again or that fatal system error box when you boot up after a system error.
Just a complete power failure. I also tried to redo the scenario, but it didn&#039;t work.
I cleaned this back - USB port it with a vacuum cleaner to remove the dust and took a good look at it, but couldn&#039;t see any difference to the side port.
I also couldn&#039;t determine any loose or unfirm parts at all.
What bothers me a little bit is that some time ago I had the notebook an my lap and forgot that a memory stick was plugged in at the rear. The stick got pushed upwards and got slightly damaged.
Still working though.

Oh yes, and I also have that &quot;wobbly&quot; power plug problem from time to time.

Notebook Specs:

Product : Satellite M30X-102, Version : PSA72E-008010GR

Mainboard:

NorthBridge : Intel i855GME
SouthBridge : 82801DBM (ICH4-M) LPC Interface Bridge
Mainboard Model: Toshiba EAL20 

Win XP Home SP3, all updates.


I hope that information is useable. It would be great if you would bring some light into this. It would be great if I got the Notebook running again.

Thank you very much for your effort.


Fabian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I took the Battery out of my Satellite M30X-102 while it was plugged in and running. </p>
<p>But the Notebook ran fine afterwards, without the battery.</p>
<p> Only when I put the battery in once more (this time Notebook was off and disconnected) it started. I got the impression, that somehow it became slower, even when the power chord was connected once again.</p>
<p>After 20 minutes the BIOS and Windows said, that battery was at 0%, but I disabled the auto-hibernate and see there, the notebook ran 25 more minutes on DC.</p>
<p>I then reloaded the battery completeley and used the tool &#8220;Battery eater&#8221; to unload the battery on heavy usage.</p>
<p>The funny thing was, that the tool showed, that the battery was still OK:</p>
<p>Device Name PA3395U<br />
Manufacture TOSHIBA<br />
Serial # SEW 04 34 A SY<br />
Unique ID 3658QTOSHIBAPA3395U<br />
Chemistry Lithium Ion<br />
Temperature Termal Control Not Present<br />
Designed Capacity 59200mWh<br />
Full Charged Capacity 59200mWh<br />
Designed Voltage 14,4V<br />
Current Voltage 16,573V<br />
Manufacture Date 0/0/0<br />
Cycles Count 0<br />
Cells count 4<br />
Force charge support Not Supported<br />
Force discharge support Not Supported</p>
<p>The battery is 5 years old. I&#8217;m using the original power cable.</p>
<p>The notebook was again running longer than shown, on the heavy usage benchmark.</p>
<p>I recharged again.</p>
<p>That was the last test I could run, after that the notebook just went off without error message, whenever I started the test run with Battery Eater.</p>
<p>After that it even crashed when booting windows.After letting it cool down I could log in again, but as soon as the processor got tuned up to 100% it shut off again. No Error Message, no event log.<br />
The problems occur on AC without battery, as well as on battery+AC and battery alone.</p>
<p>Now I have a serious  problem (overheating?), NB shuts off even when booting into ubuntu from CD.<br />
I&#8217;ve just cleaned the cooling block from the outside with a vacuum cleaner.<br />
Maybe I damaged the fan by turning in passively. (I&#8217;ve done that before though and never had a problem)<br />
Maybe all the testing destroyed something and now there is false voltage or something like that. Maybe it&#8217;s only the fan, that got hurt.</p>
<p>Now I&#8217;ve disassembled the Notebook to look for some heat problems (but the heatspred doesn&#8217;t seem to be that clogged). What else should I check / look for?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve installed the latest ATI catalyst mobile ver. 9.02 and updatet the BISO to 2.0 lately.  I thought that maybe the graphics driver was the problem for overheating, but when I installed the one provided by toshiba, the screen got black after the boot logo.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also using a clean install of windows, not the recovery and lately heard about these &#8220;toshiba common modules&#8221;. Where can I find those for my model? They are not in the driver section for my Notebook.</p>
<p>Before I&#8217;ve taken out the battery while running, I&#8217;ve had it already two times, that my notebookjust went completely off, but under different circumstances.<br />
One time when I just touched the back USB ports with a USB Plug, the other time when I unplugged my bluetooth stick (din&#8217;t savely remove it).<br />
There was no Bluescreen or message of any kind, not even in the event log after booting up again or that fatal system error box when you boot up after a system error.<br />
Just a complete power failure. I also tried to redo the scenario, but it didn&#8217;t work.<br />
I cleaned this back &#8211; USB port it with a vacuum cleaner to remove the dust and took a good look at it, but couldn&#8217;t see any difference to the side port.<br />
I also couldn&#8217;t determine any loose or unfirm parts at all.<br />
What bothers me a little bit is that some time ago I had the notebook an my lap and forgot that a memory stick was plugged in at the rear. The stick got pushed upwards and got slightly damaged.<br />
Still working though.</p>
<p>Oh yes, and I also have that &#8220;wobbly&#8221; power plug problem from time to time.</p>
<p>Notebook Specs:</p>
<p>Product : Satellite M30X-102, Version : PSA72E-008010GR</p>
<p>Mainboard:</p>
<p>NorthBridge : Intel i855GME<br />
SouthBridge : 82801DBM (ICH4-M) LPC Interface Bridge<br />
Mainboard Model: Toshiba EAL20 </p>
<p>Win XP Home SP3, all updates.</p>
<p>I hope that information is useable. It would be great if you would bring some light into this. It would be great if I got the Notebook running again.</p>
<p>Thank you very much for your effort.</p>
<p>Fabian</p>
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		<title>By: annoying,ain't it?</title>
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		<dc:creator>annoying,ain't it?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Put a book under it or otherwise raise it up a bit so air can circulate underneath. Lo-tech but it works, especially when on your lap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Put a book under it or otherwise raise it up a bit so air can circulate underneath. Lo-tech but it works, especially when on your lap.</p>
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		<title>By: Anil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kaisa, the quietness that you mention is a bit bothering. Can you really &quot;see&quot; the second fan spinning? If it is, may be it is on its way to the graveyard. To begin with I also thought my fans were working fine. Good to check again. How is the temperature (CPU). You cna possibly use hardware control center to monitor it.

Anish, good that you are out of the woods at least for the time being. If you do find a solution to high temps, let me know. I will get around to have a second look sometime in a monthor so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kaisa, the quietness that you mention is a bit bothering. Can you really &#8220;see&#8221; the second fan spinning? If it is, may be it is on its way to the graveyard. To begin with I also thought my fans were working fine. Good to check again. How is the temperature (CPU). You cna possibly use hardware control center to monitor it.</p>
<p>Anish, good that you are out of the woods at least for the time being. If you do find a solution to high temps, let me know. I will get around to have a second look sometime in a monthor so.</p>
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		<title>By: Anish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 08:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Anil,
my problem got solved using an air compressor on the 2nd fan. Now there&#039;s no warning. I guess the 2nd fan got clogged with dirt.
But the heating problem is still there. - processor temp is 71C after running couple of applications. Don&#039;t know whether this is normal or not. 
Couple of months ago, I had removed and refitted the heat sink with new thermal paste(ceramic). Started checking the processor temperature only after that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Anil,<br />
my problem got solved using an air compressor on the 2nd fan. Now there&#8217;s no warning. I guess the 2nd fan got clogged with dirt.<br />
But the heating problem is still there. &#8211; processor temp is 71C after running couple of applications. Don&#8217;t know whether this is normal or not.<br />
Couple of months ago, I had removed and refitted the heat sink with new thermal paste(ceramic). Started checking the processor temperature only after that.</p>
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		<title>By: Kasia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kasia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 15:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a Satellite A45 as well and am getting the same cooling-problem-shutdown-prompt. I took the computer apart soon after it displayed the message for about the 5th time. I found a ton of lint completely layered against the heat sink. But all of that is removed and cleaned now. Both fans are working, I just checked. The shutdown cooling prompt persists. The laptop used to make a whole lot of racket from the cooling fan, but now is totally quiet (still working however). Why does the fan not &quot;power up&quot; to full blast like it used to?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a Satellite A45 as well and am getting the same cooling-problem-shutdown-prompt. I took the computer apart soon after it displayed the message for about the 5th time. I found a ton of lint completely layered against the heat sink. But all of that is removed and cleaned now. Both fans are working, I just checked. The shutdown cooling prompt persists. The laptop used to make a whole lot of racket from the cooling fan, but now is totally quiet (still working however). Why does the fan not &#8220;power up&#8221; to full blast like it used to?</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 23:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, one more thing. If you don&#039;t want to spend a lot on a fan buy a cooling pad, they are really cheap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, one more thing. If you don&#8217;t want to spend a lot on a fan buy a cooling pad, they are really cheap.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 23:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Best option: get a new laptop

This is one of the all time worst laptops EVER. All of them have problems with overheating and they have horrible batteries. I got this laptop for free because the person was sick of it crashing. Don;t waste your money on it anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Best option: get a new laptop</p>
<p>This is one of the all time worst laptops EVER. All of them have problems with overheating and they have horrible batteries. I got this laptop for free because the person was sick of it crashing. Don;t waste your money on it anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Anil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 09:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check through the back grill on A$) near the power inlet. You can see it rotating fairly easily.

If the fan is working, I suggest you look at the cleaning and coolant problems mentioned in the posts in this thread.

For me, the problem is not completely gone away (I intend to go for changing the coolant once again when I have time). My laptop now starts at about 28C but if any programs are run, it shoots up to 70/71C then dropping down sometimes to 62 or so. In between it falls back again to 28C when the activity goes down.

Can&#039;t explain why though!!

good luck</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check through the back grill on A$) near the power inlet. You can see it rotating fairly easily.</p>
<p>If the fan is working, I suggest you look at the cleaning and coolant problems mentioned in the posts in this thread.</p>
<p>For me, the problem is not completely gone away (I intend to go for changing the coolant once again when I have time). My laptop now starts at about 28C but if any programs are run, it shoots up to 70/71C then dropping down sometimes to 62 or so. In between it falls back again to 28C when the activity goes down.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t explain why though!!</p>
<p>good luck</p>
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		<title>By: Anish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 01:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
I am facing exactly the same problem on my Toshiba A40.
The 1st Fan is working alright. But how to check whether the 2nd Fan is working or not.
The temperature shown, CPU 71C and HDD 40C.
After this message &quot; “a problem with the cooling system has been detetected … shut down and send it for service”, the system becomes horribly slow (i tried to take backup). The CPU usage (in Task Manager) shows ~100%.
Please help.
Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
I am facing exactly the same problem on my Toshiba A40.<br />
The 1st Fan is working alright. But how to check whether the 2nd Fan is working or not.<br />
The temperature shown, CPU 71C and HDD 40C.<br />
After this message &#8221; “a problem with the cooling system has been detetected … shut down and send it for service”, the system becomes horribly slow (i tried to take backup). The CPU usage (in Task Manager) shows ~100%.<br />
Please help.<br />
Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Anil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 16:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be sure, your hunch that the 2nd Fan may be failing was right. The fan did fail. I got a replacement and put it in today. However, except for short periods, when the fan stops, the CPU temperature goes down to 28C. However, for most part, fan seems to be on and the CPU temperature has stayed high, above 60C (in the beginning it was as high as 71C).

I have been running the machine for about 4 hours now but despite the seemingly high temperature, I have not seen the warning that I was getting before &quot;problem with the cooling system&quot;.

Just wondering what is happening here. Did I put too thin layer of the cooling paste? Will a thicker layer help?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be sure, your hunch that the 2nd Fan may be failing was right. The fan did fail. I got a replacement and put it in today. However, except for short periods, when the fan stops, the CPU temperature goes down to 28C. However, for most part, fan seems to be on and the CPU temperature has stayed high, above 60C (in the beginning it was as high as 71C).</p>
<p>I have been running the machine for about 4 hours now but despite the seemingly high temperature, I have not seen the warning that I was getting before &#8220;problem with the cooling system&#8221;.</p>
<p>Just wondering what is happening here. Did I put too thin layer of the cooling paste? Will a thicker layer help?</p>
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